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I have the WiS legendaries for my warrior. Fire was better at the end of WotLK, arcane was the best before you got more crit. You do realize there's going to be another major class balance patch between now and Antorus, right? This is so inaccurate it hurts. I swear some people have no reading comprehension skills and just love the sound of their own fingertips hitting the keyboard. You have restored my faith in humanity in the face of the "herp derp no one knows the future" Captain Obvious posts. It's not difficult to tell a quality discussion post from a question that Google can answer. CompetitiveWoW submitted 2 years ago by Eredyn. Only TTW spec didn't take hit from the tree a reason why it was only good later. Sharing Guides - Psychology, map strategy, metagame posts, detailed guides about UI set up, etc. Losing Nether Disruptor hurt, but with the release of Tomb, new daily rares, and invasions you can more or less make up the difference every week. Frost is often said to be alot less legendary dependant than fire. Want to add to the discussion? Mythic if you can find a good pug for old stuff.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} It's luck. If you want to ask how the specs are doing nowadays, you could ask about that. Play what you enjoy. General Resources ad Useful Discords Links to various useful resources or discords can be found in our Wiki. Eh, it was good in the end of wod and wotlk, but in mop, cata, tbc and vanilla you were playing fire. Post a comment! If you want to be optimal that means having the best legendaries, because at this point everyone else has exactly that. All rights reserved. Noone went more than 1 reset without something. A group of guild members and I wanted to farm out the rings released on 7. But like I said before getting the TW ring for frost isn't as impactful as getting bracers for fire. If we assume the bonuses stay as they are and the specs get no changes not a safe assumption , fire will get slightly better but still be behind frost. My mage has every BiS legendary for all specs and the playtime and content is a fraction of the playtime on my priest. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Fire is strong atm and it looks like the set bonus provided its not hit too hard in tuning will be strong also. Mage: frost v fire going into 7. It depends entirely on if Blizzard decides to adjust the base class numbers or change the set bonuses. But that's not a question you asked. Any helpful feedback available from existing mages? Mythic progression is absolute garbage for getting legendaries. Links to various useful resources or discords can be found in our Wiki. Your post, if within guidelines, should be approved within 24 hours. Looking at bonuses, fire might get a bit better, but I think frost will be the best option for a good mixture of both single target and cleave, as it has been for both NH and ToS so far. Cutting edge is not legendary-generating content. I'd agree with you that frost is the safer bet. Later on however with gear scaling like crazy and shit like dfo dropping in icc, arcane was absolutely insane and what most mages were playing. Having said that, the T21 fire 4 piece looks like an outstanding DPS option. Log in or sign up in seconds. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Given that I don't have any decent legendaries for frost or fire yet, there's no compelling reason for me to go one over the other right now. Switching to mage for the next tier for raid comp purposes and I'm trying to work out which spec will be easier to optimise to an acceptable standard for the next raid. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Playing torment the weak you used fireball as ffb was garbage without the frost talents, and this spec was mainly used in ulduar. Note: we are not here to choose your class for you or tell you what is the best. I appreciate and agree with your analysis and I will look to start working on frost given the above points. The most general guideline that exists now is your post must contain quality content that generates discussion Refrain from: 1 Jokes, funny stories and distasteful comments. But from reading your post it doesn't seem to me at least like you are asking which will be stronger. The most general guideline that exists now is your post must contain quality content that generates discussion. Pick a spec and get farming. Looking at current class balance, any of the specs will be fine. My current feeling is that Frost is the safer bet. Want to join? I know people keep saying this Up until the release of ToS, I was doing every emmissary as well. This helps us combat spam. Create an account. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Our moderation will be subjective, and we plan to err on over-moderation rather than under-moderation, including temporary and permanent bans. It wasn't really something I'd thought about. Its really just a roll of the dice though. All in all i'd go with the safer bet of frost, provided you enjoy both specs equally I'm fire myself due to playstyles of the specs. CompetitiveWoW comments. The best build was to get torment the weak from arcane tree and use frostfire bolt. Thank you, sir! Become a Redditor and join one of thousands of communities. You got the same hit from Arcane. There has been a rebalancing patch prior to every raid this xpac, so it stands to reason that there will probably be one before Antorus and literally anything could happen. Welcome to Reddit, the front page of the internet. Its complicated luck, but its still luck. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Arcane is decent but shouldn't really be considered as anything other then a niche AoE spec for now. I mean, it kind of is. Nobody is able to offer helpful feedback about 7. Even if you just google 3. Fire seems far more dependent on legendaries than frost, which makes me a bit wary of going fire. Reddit search may not be the best but it can bring up keywords. If you do absolutely everything , not just the hardest content, you will get a legendary once a week at the worst. But as stated no one knows. Submit a new text post. Arcane has a history of being top spec end of expansions. I just roll with the punches.